tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post3599914949366873718..comments2024-03-26T14:01:36.240-05:00Comments on Public Policy Polling: Responding to ABCTom Jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06545052616714485196noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-65604551728268099112010-01-29T12:12:31.211-05:002010-01-29T12:12:31.211-05:00Results don't matter...
you know doesn't ...Results don't matter...<br /><br />you know doesn't matter???<br /><br />Gary Langer.<br /><br />the Don Quixote of polling...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-7840730922878799462010-01-29T08:13:28.589-05:002010-01-29T08:13:28.589-05:00I'm amazed that teh guy at ABC would QUESTION ...I'm amazed that teh guy at ABC would QUESTION the results of this Fox News poll --- when EVERYONE knows that Fox News has a HUGE lead in viewership. There's a reason for that. ya know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-87142544206742719442010-01-29T00:03:44.025-05:002010-01-29T00:03:44.025-05:00haha i'm amused that people are trying to dera...haha i'm amused that people are trying to derail Rass' reputation even though it's now crystal clear who was the first one who saw the writing on the wall.<br /><br />and funny how people think Rass always purposely skew their weighting to favor the right, while no one ever questions the big "D" after PPP.<br /><br />stop shooting the messengers, esp the ones who have good track records of accuracy (on the long run) - e.g. SurveyUSA / PPP / Rass.... if a poll is unfavorable to your own candidate, slamming the pollster won't buy you any votes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13124422057774305447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-16623236742167103742010-01-28T19:40:47.406-05:002010-01-28T19:40:47.406-05:00I just posted my own take on this, http://tinyurl....I just posted my own take on this, http://tinyurl.com/yacccwz. I'm as amused as you are at his "results don't matter" attitude, but I also think the "points" he tries to make about what's wrong with IVR research -- his claims of noncoverage, nonresponse, and so on -- are all garbage, and I get into why. <br /><br />Old media is old.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223298909150465529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-61893286399134961592010-01-28T19:19:14.119-05:002010-01-28T19:19:14.119-05:00That's why the media, at least old media, is d...That's why the media, at least old media, is dying.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116121761413049785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-10135922628210171312010-01-28T16:20:08.006-05:002010-01-28T16:20:08.006-05:00The Sacred Heart poll that showed that Fox was the...The Sacred Heart poll that showed that Fox was the organization most turned to for news also reported that "Respondents were asked if they selected their favorite because they offer objective reporting or because they view the issues as they did. In results that were nearly three-to-one, 59.0% suggested they made their selection based on objective reporting, while 19.0% chose their favorite because they share the same views on issues."<br /><br />Once again, the data shows that people choose Fox News because Fox offers the most objective reporting.Christian Libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04842885802414436051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-92194665533017731882010-01-28T11:03:51.696-05:002010-01-28T11:03:51.696-05:00The Scott Brown/Boston Globe example is not especi...The Scott Brown/Boston Globe example is not especially useful. <br /><br />The Boston Globes'poll wasn't wrong because of their fielding methodology (which is much of what Langer is critiquing in your polls), but more because of how they constructed their "Likely Voter" model. Their model resulted in a self identified party breakdown of [DEM 56%, REP 27%, IND 15%] where as yours was [DEM 44%, REP 17%, IND 39%]. Even the Globe had Coakley polling extremely closely among self-described Independents [41 to 40]. PPP took a risk using a non-conventional LV model before it was obvious that MA would have a non-conventional election. <br /><br />You deserve congrats for that risk, but it is not a paradigmatic example of bad MSM polls receiving more attention than a good PPP poll.Pablo Kenneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12636353898754100336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-90733398100507364712010-01-28T10:55:02.635-05:002010-01-28T10:55:02.635-05:00Keeping them honest.
Good for you, Tom!Keeping them honest.<br />Good for you, Tom!Bharatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-53246297877871964422010-01-28T10:37:53.719-05:002010-01-28T10:37:53.719-05:00I assume you do polling for clients. They are payi...I assume you do polling for clients. They are paying for accuracy, not methodology.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11928675187803337574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-66468459163454449762010-01-28T10:31:26.167-05:002010-01-28T10:31:26.167-05:00Rasmussen can be a lousy polling organization and ...Rasmussen can be a lousy polling organization and still predict "outcomes" accurately, because predicting outcomes is not the largest part of what they do. They have an interest in predictive methodology when they are actually predicting. Most of the time they are doing issue polling; that's when they get really cute with the methodology because they can. If they weight their poll to prove most Americans think Obama is a citizen of Kenya and born out of wedlock, there's not going to be a referendum on that issue to expose them. Election predictions are the bait for the public, while all these issue polls are the switch. They're weighted toward a Republican sample purely to give the impression that Americans have all joined the tea party. As different as the Wall Street Journal's reporters are from its loony editorial writers, that's how different its pre-electoral polling is from its issue polling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-46400240931980385072010-01-28T10:17:18.017-05:002010-01-28T10:17:18.017-05:00Silly pollster, with your silly statistical sampli...Silly pollster, with your silly statistical sampling methods! Don't you realize what matters isn't accuracy, but the MSM's exclusive right to be the filter of opinion?Matt Osbornehttp://www.osborneink.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-41311803885011300762010-01-28T10:12:58.213-05:002010-01-28T10:12:58.213-05:00Kudos! Method is a good place to start but you'...Kudos! Method is a good place to start but you're adding voices and broadening (an otherwise canned) converation. Congratulations, you're scaring them.MJ Napierhttp://mjnapier.comnoreply@blogger.com