tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post8027066304931868422..comments2024-03-18T06:10:07.480-05:00Comments on Public Policy Polling: My thoughts on the Strategic Vision ControversyTom Jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06545052616714485196noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-8781175917916258502009-10-01T14:40:19.523-05:002009-10-01T14:40:19.523-05:00I agree I'd like to see analyses of all major ...I agree I'd like to see analyses of all major pollsters a la Nate Silver on Strategic Vision. I suggest starting with Rasmussen.Doug Kahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18206534475804997978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-30150586375567643662009-09-28T10:00:01.246-05:002009-09-28T10:00:01.246-05:00You don't even have to imagine anything as sca...You don't even have to imagine anything as scandalous as trying to influence an election to see the room for unethical behavior. A polling organization could quite simply cut corners for greed. They could do some, high profile polls at one standard, but fudge the low profile numbers to rip off clients. They could doctor data to hide a lack of rigor. They could even take kickbacks for good numbers. All are things they could plausibly get away with for quite some time.theamazingjexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08062080723075521288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-3707579047324548732009-09-27T17:54:10.479-05:002009-09-27T17:54:10.479-05:00Anyone know why the addresses of their offices tur...Anyone know why the addresses of their offices turned out to be UPS stores?Darshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605837060281181405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-351007036683351002009-09-26T18:31:08.187-05:002009-09-26T18:31:08.187-05:00"Copying everyone else" isn't what s..."Copying everyone else" isn't what some of us suspect Strategic Vision of doing. Rather, if the results are faked, it would presumably be in the interest of helping Republicans. Other polls might have suggested Hillary would beat Edwards, but a Republican would prefer Edwards to beat Hillary (still the strongest general election candidate at that time). A projected second place showing for Edwards (and third for Clinton), if it became a self-fulfilling prophecy, would have suited Republicans to a "T." Strategic Vision's results are often out of line with other polls, and to the benefit of Republicans. I've seen them described as Rasmussen on steroids.ducdebrabanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05562894932565839735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-78056052568866714452009-09-26T10:45:44.579-05:002009-09-26T10:45:44.579-05:00Great analysis as usual, Tom!Great analysis as usual, Tom!Bharathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00618386811178588780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-42349665837950943862009-09-25T14:03:56.701-05:002009-09-25T14:03:56.701-05:00I don't think it's very meaningful to get ...I don't think it's very meaningful to get Clinton/Edwards or Edwards/Clinton. It was basically a tie (31.2%) and Clinton actually earned one more "projected" delegate.Hopeful in NJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09674704156162603110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-68048578259178089332009-09-25T13:56:03.572-05:002009-09-25T13:56:03.572-05:00I didn't say Strategic Vision did that, I just...I didn't say Strategic Vision did that, I just said that's something pollsters could do if nobody expected them to provide any crosstabs or demographics of their sample.Tom Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06545052616714485196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-77102963289368522762009-09-25T13:53:56.260-05:002009-09-25T13:53:56.260-05:00Well Tom,
Strategic Vision pretty much nailed the...Well Tom,<br /><br />Strategic Vision pretty much nailed the Iowa caucuses as it was only one of two pollsters to conclude that Edwards would finish ahead of Clinton. It also found the same 32% for Obama that Ann Selzer found (before she bombed in the Iowa general election polling by finding a final result of 54-37).<br /><br />So if Strategic Vision wanted to copy everyone else, it probably would have taken the safer route in Iowa and had Clinton ahead of Edwards at least.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com