tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post9197956592759504464..comments2024-03-26T14:01:36.240-05:00Comments on Public Policy Polling: Changing my mind on primariesTom Jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06545052616714485196noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-51840979096362651762008-12-01T09:14:00.000-05:002008-12-01T09:14:00.000-05:00I must admit, I've never quite bought the idea tha...I must admit, I've never quite bought the idea that Sen. Clinton would have been that competitive in KY. True, she did very well in the primary, but KY has closed primaries and, given that most of the offices in Frankfort are decided in the Democratic primary, most people register as Democrats. While I have little trouble believing they favored Clinton over Obama in the primary, I suspect a lot of those same voters would have voted for McCain the general. I wouldn't be surprised if 1/4 to 1/3 of the primary voters would have deserted her.<BR/><BR/>I lived in KY for over 14 years, including most of the Clinton administration. Pres. Clinton was popular enough to sqeak out two wins there, but his wife was not as well liked. I knew a lot of folks who voted for Pres. Clinton who would never have voted for the Senator.<BR/><BR/>That said, I think she would have won if nominated, but I think the only state Obama lost that she would have won is Arkansas, and I think there's no way she would have won NC or IN. I'm also not sure she would have run as strongly in NV, NM, and CO. So, I think it would have been a lot closer election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-36238591988785408712008-11-28T14:29:00.000-05:002008-11-28T14:29:00.000-05:00I don't think Hillary would have actually won Tenn...I don't think Hillary would have actually won Tennessee post economic crisis; it would have been the equivalent of what Georgia was for Obama. Kentucky for Hillary would have been the equivalent of what North Carolina was for Obama.<BR/><BR/>Did your polls show Hillary to be stronger than Obama in Missouri? It's kind of weird to think that Hillary would be stronger than Obama in Missouri even though he won the state in the primaries while he would be stronger than her in Indiana though she won the state in the primaries.<BR/><BR/>Would Hillary have been stronger against McCain in Arizona? Mac picked up over 40% of support from Hispanics, which is why he "outperformed" the polls in his home state. Perhaps Clinton could have won 70%+ support from Hispanics in Arizona and forced McCain to spend time there earlier in the season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-66855809740248604872008-11-28T14:22:00.000-05:002008-11-28T14:22:00.000-05:00Looking over those polls just remind me of how dif...Looking over those polls just remind me of how different a Clinton/McCain battle would have been. It probably would have been extremely civil given their long-standing friendship but the real difference may have been the states where they would have been battling.<BR/><BR/>The "hot" states would have been West Virginia and Arkansas pre-economic crisis while post-economic crisis, Kentucky and Tennessee would have been in the fold. Iowa and Colorado would have been close between Hillary and McCain. Clinton was probably a better fit for Missouri than Obama, though Indiana probably wouldn't have seen any action from Hillary.<BR/><BR/>If Hillary was up by one in Ohio with fewer than 50% support from blacks, that's pretty impressive; McCain may have given up on Florida and Ohio and focused on peeling off blue states such as Wisconsin, Oregon, and Minnesota to make up for the lost electoral college votes that he would have sustained from losing either Ohio or Florida.<BR/><BR/>The South would have been in play with Clinton; just different Southern states. Ironically, Palin may have been a better fit as VP for McCain against Hillary given that the battle that McCain would have had to keep West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, and Tennessee against Clinton.<BR/><BR/>Interesting hypothetical to ponder....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com