tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post7694705877796975794..comments2024-03-26T14:01:36.240-05:00Comments on Public Policy Polling: Third-party bids would help ObamaTom Jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06545052616714485196noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-46153097070135446392011-08-29T10:56:13.049-05:002011-08-29T10:56:13.049-05:00Al Gore lost the 2000 election with stupidity. Nad...Al Gore lost the 2000 election with stupidity. Nader had very little effect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-25971673169411137482011-08-28T19:32:10.861-05:002011-08-28T19:32:10.861-05:00Obama may not have a solid base as far as "ap...Obama may not have a solid base as far as "approval" but I think he has a pretty solid base as far as people who will vote for him anyway despite not being overjoyed with what he's been able to accomplish so far. I think most of those people realize at some level that they were expecting too much and that Obama is up against extremely difficult obstacles on the road to positive change (those obstacles being created by the Republican Party.)Jonny Vhttp://www.vimaxreview.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-56410270256858095732011-08-26T10:29:02.037-05:002011-08-26T10:29:02.037-05:00It would be sweet justice if a 3rd party candidate...It would be sweet justice if a 3rd party candidate cost the Republicans 2012 (just like Nader cost Gore 2000.)I Am Iron Manhttp://www.thepresidentialcandidates.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-85750143756995641362011-08-26T09:16:28.710-05:002011-08-26T09:16:28.710-05:00Unfortunately, putting Romney into this scenario a...Unfortunately, putting Romney into this scenario as the hypothetical GOP nominee is as meaningless now as putting in Pawlenty or Huckabee. Please rerun this poll soon with Rick Perry -- otherwise it doersn't tell us much.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11963290427258439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-42971601240264305012011-08-26T08:33:22.181-05:002011-08-26T08:33:22.181-05:00We hear this every election season when the Dem is...We hear this every election season when the Dem is in trouble. I doubt there will be a third party challenge because its getting too late in the game to organize and fund a run.Dangerous Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05002152673276424291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-40637913793856667652011-08-26T06:51:35.459-05:002011-08-26T06:51:35.459-05:00@Al Pippin:
I don't question the numbers you ...@Al Pippin:<br /><br />I don't question the numbers you have cited as evidence that Obamas base isnt as solid as PPPs poll shows.<br /><br />I just question your interpretation.<br /><br />Both numbers could be right. How? Well, the democratic base is not so enamoured by President Obama anymore, but they are unified in their fear of a right wing republican in the White House.<br /><br />It cant get worse? Democrats certainly think otherwise and will vote accordingly and in big numbers.<br /><br />Fear is a huge motivator! And Republicans are really doing a heck of a job, playing into democrats (and independents) fears!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-75663575784213627952011-08-26T03:40:25.787-05:002011-08-26T03:40:25.787-05:00"Despite their grumbling, Democrats remain pr..."Despite their grumbling, Democrats remain pretty united behind Obama..." Oh Really?<br /><br />RCP currently has Obama's average approval rating index at -7.3%; representing a 10%+ drop from 5/24/11.<br /><br />What I find rather infomative about the Polls done by Rasmussen and AP-GFK is that they include in their polling of Obama, "Strongly" approve / disapprove of his job performance. In doing so it provides a reasonable measure of enthusiasm, thus voter turnout. In any event, AP-GFK (on 8/22/11) had those numbers at 19%-36% (-17%); representing a 24% drop from 5/9/11, when it was 32%-25% (+7). Rasmussen's numbers (on 8/25/11)were even worse at 21%-45% (-24); representing a 14% drop from 5/25/11, when they were 25%-35% (-10). <br /><br />Let's face it Dustin, things aren't getting any better for Obama - nor the rest of America. The CBO is now projecting the unemployment rate to remain above 8.5% through 2012. As such, Obama's approval numbers will undoubtedly continue to fall - and quite significantly so at that. Say low 30(s)% by election day.<br /><br />As such, Obama will most definitely lose his bid for re-election. And will do so by a record or near record margin; irrespective of who his GOP opponent ultimately is.<br /><br />And you say?Al Pippinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-32852099021094602222011-08-25T19:44:36.479-05:002011-08-25T19:44:36.479-05:00Ron Paul or Mike Bloomberg are the most likely 3rd...Ron Paul or Mike Bloomberg are the most likely 3rd party candidates in the realm of possibility. Fox News will make sure Palin and Trump don't run 3rd party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-63511380574808472892011-08-25T16:19:46.974-05:002011-08-25T16:19:46.974-05:00Paul or bust. Literally.Paul or bust. Literally.JoshLowryhttp://www.instantinception.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2799451770086337664.post-85008028537501163132011-08-25T15:24:35.871-05:002011-08-25T15:24:35.871-05:00Really interesting stuff. One thing to keep in mi...Really interesting stuff. One thing to keep in mind is that these are incredibly early, speculative numbers. Any independent/third party candidate who started polling in the double digits would be a serious contender, and would definitely have the opportunity to get into debates and make their case. It could be a pretty interesting election for once.Grim Egohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09800609123090369814noreply@blogger.com